and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related And yet, love him or loathe him, Kirbys voice is as intrinsically linked to the Tour de France, for Eurosport viewers at least, as other famous voices across the sporting spectrum. It is not just the press core looking for pictures for the following day. Story Time with Carlton Kirby: The art of commentary and an - Eurosport Maybe it's because he doesn't ride a bike himself? As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? There is absolutely no deficit of distractions for a commentator. Here they are listed below, but we already know there will be one change - Team Sky will be racing as Team Ineos, with the Tour de Yorkshire being its first race following the management company's sale to the petrochemical business. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport commentator. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. You are as ill informed as Kirby. Seriously. It was a dreadfully high price to pay in my opinion to high but the suffering couldnt go on. The commentators day doesnt juststart when the racing does, with research and planning underwayas soon as breakfast is taken. I can walk or drive the technical approach to the finish, which is gold. The Wanty-GroupeGobert rider was air lifted to hospital after the crash yesterday, but thankfully it seems like he's in a stable condition. Some people take offence for the strangest reasons. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage. CK:Its pretty bleak. Yates was obviously cooked - why else would anyone work for dozens of kilometres and then give up in the final 2km? When all the commentators from different nationalities are inside the same studio room, it is no longer the same as before, remarks Kirby, in a monotonous tone. I had almost no idea what was going on or who was where. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. So, you have to ask yourself: What is different, and why is it worth it to actually go on-site? Kittel is still the fastest guy out there, but when he turns on the taps there is going to be a point when his maximum capacity starts to diminish. It is a free-for-all. When youre part of the race caravan, all you talk about is the race. Like this site? Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. Its the art of illusion. The headline does anyway, while the sources in the article cover a few different potential causes. Kirby tells us that Batistella is punching his handlebars in celebration. There are already calls for a convening of UCI protocol committee so they can start to get some proper rules together about it. And hes trying to improve them. Baseless. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). You can also sometimes find your hotel is one or two hours away. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. OK. And then, we wait. La Vuelta cycling - 'Wow!' - Terrifying moment Alejandro - Eurosport Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? She talks about the background to the petition, which you can sign here, in this video. Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In on Apple Podcasts Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. Log in or register to join the conversation. How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. According to the Telegraph, cyclists and joggers could be targeted as part ofa new Government initiative to work out who is leaving waste behind in countryside. VeloNews: Whats the biggest difference for you when youre commentating on a race from back home, instead of attending the event? Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. or maybe you,re a relative ?? Yeah he does. You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. The moment you have spoken a word, it is out there on tape and on every news website, forum, and who knows what. What you are talking about is a place in history. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. The youngsters were congratulated by the force on Twitter, as they helped chase down a thief who had stolen over 300 worth of goods. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. You only need to listen to him to get that he has no time for Johnny Foreigner. A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. Baseless. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. He said from the rider's perspective, motorbikes get far too close to the race. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby and cycling legend Sean Kelly reacted like the viewers at home - at first incredibly concerned, then mightily relieved. he's saving his energy. Having spent over 25 years in the field, he has seen a lot, as many other countless commentators have seen. Thankfully, no tree roots to overcome. VN:What do you talk about differently when youre in the studio? Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. CK:I think not many people will notice. #cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading Always the hardest and most challenging role in such types of games is of a cycling commentator. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. But Mark Cavendish says no: what the track does is make you think fast, it makes you think within a very tight set of circumstances. COME ON WRITE TO EUROSPORT AND LETS GET HIM OFF ! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It is crazy. It's garnering quite a few sarcastic responses on Twitter Yep, I regularly cycle to MacDonalds, get a load of food, then cycle to the off license, get some beer, and then cycle to a lay by or car park and spread it around the place. When actually its just hand-written sheet of notes to recall from.. Owned by Warner Bros. During a sprint stage, every turn is important, and sometimes Ill walk the final approach with [commentator] Sean Kelly, and there will be no need to even take notes, because hell just say, Oh, this will be shit. You can read an off-camber turn when youre standing on it, and see the attack points when youre going up and down a mountain. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. Some pros think so, plus more tech news from Shimano, Zwift, Le Col, Dahon, Fairlight + more, Pick-up truck driver crashes into group of cyclists, leaving two dead and 11 injured. At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? It is all kinds of stuff. Riders have lost their ability to race, says LeMond, Nacer Bouhanni handed penalty, fined for shove. Kirby continues to put his notes togetheronce hearrives at the commentary booth, reading the local press andKellys grasp of colloquial French coming into its own. Advertising, commercial: sales [at] road.cc At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. I'm not sure if it was security, medical or a photographer who hit him, but essentially there was braking with four riders on the ground and the bike flipped before landing on the riders. They support his knowledge and enthusiasm behind the mic, even after so many years. pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. I never say when Im on-site vs. at the race. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. Carlton kirby - has to go !! | Cyclingnews Forum Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. What is his cycling background ? Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVams overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. The rest is very monotonous and quite naturally the onus of filling that gap falls on the commentator. Nah, Harmon is clued up. There are several fan forums that constantly try to have him removed from Eurosport and even made a Carlton Kirby petition their demands on the grounds of inane chatter, terrible jokes, and unnecessary screaming. In their eyes, he is one of the worst cycling commentators. Driver escapes punishment for alleged hit-and-run on cyclist, as victim blasts police inaction and barriers to justice. Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc Kelly will probably kill him by the end. It is not general knowledge, and it should be. Not that itsa straightforward drive to the finish at the Tour, as Kirby explains. The word count for me at the end is almost blurred.. Ive just turned Catalunya on and hes already come out with I think he fell victim to his agent, so now hes at x team. It is all clearly not set in stone at the moment, and I hope that I'm not going to have some sharp intake of breath moments on commentary just because bikes are needlessly endangering the lives of cyclists. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. Hosted by Duncan Steer Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In Radio Days Events Sports NOV 24, 2021 London live show preview! Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses Chris Froome's performance in winning a fourth Tour de France. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? Hosted by Duncan Steer. PLEASE CONTACT EUROSPORT/GCN INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS SIGNING, BECAUSE THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER EFFECT. After my tweet he at least toned that down. He also never tells you who the riders on screen are - and if he does, he's usually wrong. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. Tel 01225 588855. Carlton Kirby: Mark Cavendish the greatest sprinter of all - Eurosport He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. Stig Broeckx avoids serious injury after being hit by motorbike. You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. Eurosportreports that Kenny expanded on the incident on BBC One today, saying: Someone felt they had right of way and decided that gave them the right to kind of jump on the throttle and drive at us, which was a scary experience. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. You can use your lens. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. Every time she fought back from a coma we were warned. Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. Eurosport cant get away with this !! That should have been alarm bells for everyone. It is all well having experience, but at some of the smaller races who are the guys riding these bikes? i like the stuff the two GCN guys do, is it dan Loyd and Matt Stephens? CK:As a commentator, you dont have a great deal of contact with the riders. ), there is a thread in the. -"Looks like shit. I have - again - sent this to Eurosport (23/2/23, with 1,871 signatures - and 1,400 people taking the time to comment!). I remember being impressed during the Giro at his ability to identify riders. Jason Kenny has recounted to the BBC the near miss he and his infant son Albie encountered while out cycling last month. Without any editing, moderation, or credibility, it is all out in the name of fate. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. I talk about the same stuff, except Im making it up. Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era - Eurosport Especially on the downhill runs which is a crazy situation. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community. All of this stuff adds to the vrit of the broadcast, and its stuff you cannot get in a studio in London. This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. 35m is 100ft. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. Also, I would say many of his criticisms are unfair and/or cruel. The demands of media and multimedia these days make it more of a serious problem. Utterly self-absorbed: he had already decided who'd won. Wow, all this over a commentator, so Kirby sees a Quickstep rider and mistakes it for Voeckler - that's funny, it's engaging! Or at least diminished. Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In - Radio Days Events At other broadcasters you still have cue points, but its usually after youve finished making a point [because youre the only commentary team]. @DeGendtThomas, guanyador de la primera etapa de la #VoltaCatalunya 2019. Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. There's also his lack of knowledge. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. Well ride that sympathy and see how far it takes us up the beach. When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. Best known for his work on Eurosport, his voice has also appeared on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Motors TV, Cycling TV, Speed Channel USA, ABC Australia, SABC South Africa, Canal Plus France, Canal France International and more. No ! Stay tuned! Uhhh, Ill say Bettiol. The unrelenting, inane chatter (did any of us want to know that his wife had their third child by caesarean section? Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. You must log in or register to reply here. Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses the collision between Peter Sagan and Mark Cavendish that ended the Tour de France for both men. I quite like Kirby. Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. Especially on unstable surfaces. You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. His knowledge of most non-english speaking riders can be written on the back of a postage stamp, with the exception of 'famous' foreigners like the Schlecks, Dertie Cont, Cancellera and after this spring Gilbert. VN:So, what really is gained by being on-site? Kittel moves first into Cavendish, who follows the white line. Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In on Stitcher With very little data being sent to them, and some pretty bad camerawork they have made a good fist of the event in Spain. Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. What blasphemy is this? Are you sure? Eurosport's Carlton Kirby in Conversation - Magazine - Ride Velo And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. Among the big names the Belgian put time into today were Alejandro Valverde, fourth overall and 2 minutes 56 second down in fourth place overall, and Team Skys Egan Bernal, a further 1 second back. Your Tour de France telecastwill look the same this year, but it may feel somewhat different. And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. As you say, he doesn't shout unnecessarily either. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. You have a sound wall battle, where theyre shoving one way and were shoving the other while trying to sound calm and interesting on the commentary when actually what you want to do is knock someone out! Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, and the concerns he has, one might want to know how much of that impacts him. Quite often you are talking while being handed a note, being spoken to by the director, and listening to race radio at the same time as well, says Kirby. His Grand National, Murray Walker shouting in the last 2 kilometres really is unbelievable. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . "Oh! The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. ), peppered with the repeated clichs (just see how many times he says 'puppy paws', joining the party or a dozen or so others). You cant please everybody and as a commentator thats something you have to get to grips with. AndKirby wouldnt have it any other way, even if there are those who dont always appreciate what goes into calling a Tour de France stage. Talk about what you know. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. Apologies it's in super annoying meme form (we couldn't find the originalsource) but this is too good not too share! Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. Simon Clarke, who should have won the 2016 Milan-San Remo is just one in a long, long line of things he invents from nowhere and then portrays as facts, banging on about them throughout a season. (PS If there's anything here about donating, that's the website host - nothing to do with this petition - there is nothing to donate to. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. You can sound like youre a genius, with an incredible memory, Kirby says. Went for a bike ride earlier today. The man, the myth, the chosen son. They kept the suspect in view and assisted us in the footchase before he was caught and arrested pic.twitter.com/QcQg7PBcsn, Wednesfield Police (@WednesfieldWMP) March 24, 2019. ). Win! 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He threw the toys out of the pram because his head is scrambled by these defeats. Kirby is not uncomfortable with the spurt of social media and the exponential increase of criticism that has gone alongside with it. Kirby has the benefit of what he calls the ultimate pass the presence of his legendary co-commentator when it comes to cutting through the crowds and police lines. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. Kirby has more than two decades as a. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021 - nehantech.com Well, Kirby says, when its all out action on the road its very easy the problem comes on longtransition stages. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport His voice tends to wake me up from my nap when something happens. Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. Story Time with Carlton Kirby: Mankini's and mechanicals | "The We have to get him off eurosport. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby has called for action to regulate the role of motor vehicles in the sport following the tragic death of Belgium's Antoine Demoitie, who was. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. From dealing with the never-ending frenzy of action, and incessant radio announcements, to having to tackle the director. I speak no language other than English.