There the boys encountered Master Pandemonium who further strengthened their belief that they are the reincarnated souls of the Scarlet Witch's twin sons. 2 yr. ago. He was angry here so there were no spell chants. Wiccan last edited by I made The respect threads , and I'm telling you the unkindness is a problem. Teleports an entire prisoner van to a secure SHIELD location. We dont know if shes telling the truth, so as of now its HAS NOT BEEN recton cause the story hasnt even given a chance to prove if shes telling the truth in the first place. He and Teddy decided to work with her, and took her out on a training mission against Hydra squadrons. View full history. And what else has the oh so overhyped Demiurge done? The Young Avengers were lured into a trap set by the Young Masters, who were waiting with Osborn's Dark Avengers to take down the YA. Of note here is the remark concerning the second hypostasis or Creator and third hypostasis or World Soul. This article is about philosophical concept of a Universal Fashioner. It is on this account that Moses says, at the creation of man alone that God said, "Let us make man," which expression shows an assumption of other beings to himself as assistants, in order that God, the governor of all things, might have all the blameless intentions and actions of man, when he does right attributed to him; and that his other assistants might bear the imputation of his contrary actions. Clown move to be jumping the gun so quickly. It's existence has been retconned hence he has no such feats. Thus, in such systems, the Demiurge acts as a solution to (or, at least possibly, the problem or cause that gives rise to) the problem of evil.[14]. The philosophical usage and the proper noun derive from Plato's Timaeus, written c.360 BC, where the demiurge is presented as the creator of the universe. A partially powered Demiurge (aka the Semiurge) holds off Mother's attacks Fully turns into the Demiurge through the power of love As the full-powered Demiurge, he casually removes Mother from existence, who is an extremely powerful matter manipulator, and removes everyone from the pocket dimension into the main universe. He has spent time on numerous super hero teams, including the Young Avengers and the New Avengers. In the Apocryphon of John, Yaldabaoth is also known as both Sakla and Samael. Doctor Strange has also claimed that Wiccan has the potential to be the next Sorcerer Supreme. In this act of separate creation, she gave birth to the monstrous Demiurge and, being ashamed of her deed, wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him within it. Am not jumping the gun, am presenting the evidence as is. He comes from heaven, and it is said his "face flashed with fire and [his] appearance was defiled with blood". So don't act like I'm the one lacking information here. That night, however, the woman attacks Wiccan's parents. Wiccan (Billy Kaplan) 4-Star Rarity (Legendary) Heroes, Young Avengers, Team Cap. @j2111: @imquentin: And since all those nonsensical statements we've seen this lame deus ex machina in actual effect in New Avengers. Hence Demiurge never played any part in it's creation. His appearance is patterned on that of two prominent Marvel superheroes, Thor and Scarlet Witch, both of whom are members of the Avengers. The dyad is energeia emanated by the one that is then the work, process or activity called nous, Demiurge, mind, consciousness that organizes the indeterminate vitality into the experience called the material world, universe, cosmos. Especially considering said story isnt even completed and is still running so whos to say Catalina is lying? [28], Yaldabaoth is frequently called "the Lion-faced", leontoeides, and is said to have the body of a serpent. The is no utopia parallel. He wiped out Mother and nothing else. As long as they are near their parents or the location of their parent's deaths, they will be in danger. Teleports an entire prisoner van to a secure SHIELD location. She reassured him that "Everyone has some gift," and advised him that next time he encounter Kessler, not to back down. In response, Billy, now enraged, summoned a devastating blast of lightning that quickly took down the entire Wrecking Crew. In Young Avengers vol. A. H. Armstrong identified the so-called "Gnostics" that Plotinus was attacking as Jewish and Pagan, in his introduction to the tract in his translation of the Enneads. Here, at the summit of this system, the Source and Demiurge (material realm) coexist via the process of henosis. It's also not in English like normal. Hence the title of Plotinus' refutation: "Against Those That Affirm the Creator of the Kosmos and the Kosmos Itself to be Evil" (generally quoted as "Against the Gnostics"). They go to the Uncanny Avengers for help, but they too fall under the influence of the parasite. A partially powered Demiurge (aka the Semiurge) holds off Mother's attacks, Fully turns into the Demiurge through the power of love. Mother is defeated, and all theteen heroes gather at MJ's Club to celebrate the new year. While still trying to decide how to continue their activities while staying under the radar of the New Avengers, Hulkling was kidnapped by the Super-Skrull. Having no other choice, Wiccan and the team decide to leave New York. The confrontation led to a battle between Kang and the Young Avengers. How is it likely that shes not lying when the demiurge is still a thing everywhere else? The ordering principle is twofold; there is a principle known as the Demiurge, and there is the Soul of the All; the appellation "Zeus" is sometimes applied to the Demiurge and sometimes to the principle conducting the universe. This being is considered not only blind, or ignorant of its own origins, but may, in addition, be evil; its name is also found in Judaism as the Angel of Death and in Christian demonology. Demiurge. ), c.360 BC. However instead of recreating them as her children, they ended up as the children of other parents. @killianduclark: Thats not even remotely debunking anything. Wiccan, Speed, and Hulkling team up with Xavin and the Runaways to defeat the Super-Skrulls that are sent to assassinate Hulkling. He avoided Kessler at all costs until one day he saw Kessler had found a new victim. Unwillingly, Wiccan's spell to bring back Hulkling's mother has brought back the parents of multiple heroes, including Ms. America's. His powers thus far have manifested on a localized scale in a variety of ways through the upper limit of his powers has yet to be seen. Youre really trying to use a brand new scan that hasnt been explained in a still unfinished story. Didnt this Raven end her universe? Wiccan would spend much of his time bouncing from team to team. Iron Lad had used a system he found in the remains of the Vision which helped locate alternative members for the Avengers for the next generation. Creates a solid energy construct to allow other people to travel on a platform, He can give other people the power of flight. (sorry i'm clueless but if this was true wouldn't that make him like the most powerful person in the universe? @demiurgekaplan: the entirety of multiversal demi urges feats come from statements about creating the utopia parallel. They are rescued by Noh-Varr and Kate Bishop, and the team flees to Central Park in order to avoid bringing too many people into the spell. ToyBiz produced a figure of Wiccan for the Marvel Legends line as part of an exclusive Young Avengers box set. His spellcasting is unique, however. As the full-powered Demiurge, he casually removes Mother from existence, who is an extremely powerful matter manipulator, and removes everyone from the pocket dimension into the main universe. However, when they go to Asgard, they find that Loki's father Laufey is there as well. The Cathars held that the creator of the world, Satanael, had usurped the name of God, but that he had subsequently been unmasked and told that he was not really God."[48]. Special circumstance here as Hulkling was in mortal danger so he was angry. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. When the Scarlet Witch used her powers to recreate the world after the House of M event, she inadvertently recreated both William and Thomas as well. Realizing how hard Hulkling's life has been, Wiccan decides to do something to make it up to him, and finds an alterate universe's version of his Hulkling's mother, saving her before her death. He apparently could not save it from breaking apart without some ladies croaking so how powerful does that make him? In others, including the teaching of Valentinus, the demiurge is simply ignorant or misguided. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. He is first mentioned in "The Cosmos, Chaos, and the Underworld" as one of the twelve angels to come "into being [to] rule over chaos and the [underworld]". In the Archontic, Sethian, and Ophite systems, which have many affinities with the doctrine of Valentinus, the making of the world is ascribed to a company of seven archons, whose names are given, but still more prominent is their chief, "Yaldabaoth" (also known as "Yaltabaoth" or "Ialdabaoth"). During this battle, Billy revealed his ability to cast spells where he had previously limited himself to lightning projection and flight due to his inexperience. It's not fair. (@ultraphoenix), https://twitter.com/spacekicker/status/1364588644032421889. In school, he met a tremendous amount of hate and fear because he was different. Meaning as he stands now his best feat is destroying a universe in 20 years despite being bloodlusted. Wiccan and the other imprisoned anti-registration heroes were later freed by Hulkling who disguised himself as Hank Pym to infiltrate the N-Zone prison. But Jerusalem represents the creation or the Creator whom the Jews worship. She was playing with them when Doctor Strange met her in the tower. Since that night, Billy's father never did. This sudden outburst of powers worries the Avengers, who think that it may lead to Wiccan having a mental breakdown similar to that of the Scarlet Witch. The team continued to fight crime on the streets, including busting dealers of Mutant Growth Hormone, which granted superpowers to ordinary humans. All realities mean omniverse. The former was dkaios, severely just, the latter agaths, or loving-kind; the former was the "god of this world",[41] the God of the Old Testament, the latter the true God of the New Testament. Here he uses an offensive spell but he doesn't repeat the spell. In the report of the system of Basilides,[23] we are told that our world was made by the angels who occupy the lowest heaven; but special mention is made of their chief, who is said to have been the God of the Jews, to have led that people out of the land of Egypt, and to have given them their law. Wiccan becomes the target of all enemy attacks. Soon, almost all the young heroes of Earth-616 are assembled to battle Mother's army. In this one-shot about the final adventure of the Avengers, Billy Maximoff chose to be a villain, calling himself the Grim Reaper. Humiliated and defeated, Osborn ordered the remaining members of his team to stand down, simply stating to the YA that, "This never happened." (Kick Duck Dancing) 16:52 GG - Petrivka 19:49 Daniel Christian ft. Kolly Dee - Slava Ukraine 23:19 Andrew StetS feat. "Matter is therefore a non-existent"; Plotinus, "Apocryphon of John," translation by Frederik Wisse in. Psalm 82 begins, "God stands in the assembly of El [LXX: assembly of gods], in the midst of the gods he renders judgment",[16] indicating a plurality of gods, although it does not indicate that these gods were co-actors in creation. Meaning his feats are still the destruction of mother, the destruction of a universe over the course of 20 years and useless hype statements that everyone here has, @killianduclark: agreed. When Norman Osborn invaded Asgard with his army of superpowered beings and H.A.M.M.E.R. Iamblichus describes the One as a monad whose first principle or emanation is intellect (nous), while among "the many" that follow it there is a second, super-existent "One" that is the producer of intellect or soul (psyche). Billy and the Young Avengers are the first team to respond to invading Skrulls in New York. Last edited on 26 February 2023, at 15:49, introducing citations to additional sources, Learn how and when to remove this template message, Against the Gnostics; or, Against Those that Affirm the Creator of the Cosmos and the Cosmos Itself to be Evil, International Society for Neoplatonic Studies, Dark Mirrors of Heaven: Gnostic Cosmogony, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Demiurge&oldid=1141744969, This page was last edited on 26 February 2023, at 15:49. In order to test if his feelings are genuine, the two agree to temporarily break up. It was here that Billy revealed to Teddy that Norse myths have always had a special meaning for him because his father used to read them to him at night. Transforms himself into the Scarlet Witch, Conjures up clothes in order to look like a prison guard, Gives Kid Loki a teenage body, making Loki even stronger, Undoes the Enchantress' transformation spell. After Secret Wars, Billy and Hulking joined the new Avengers team that Sunspot built from A.I.M., facing off against The Maker. [37] The name has also been inscribed on amulets as "Ariel Ialdabaoth",[38][39] and the figure of the archon inscribed with "Aariel". [32][33], "Samael" literally means "Blind God" or "God of the Blind" in Hebrew (.mw-parser-output .script-hebrew,.mw-parser-output .script-Hebr{font-family:"SBL Hebrew","SBL BibLit","Taamey Ashkenaz","Taamey Frank CLM","Frank Ruehl CLM","Ezra SIL","Ezra SIL SR","Keter Aram Tsova","Taamey David CLM","Keter YG","Shofar","David CLM","Hadasim CLM","Simple CLM","Nachlieli",Cardo,Alef,"Noto Serif Hebrew","Noto Sans Hebrew","David Libre",David,"Times New Roman",Gisha,Arial,FreeSerif,FreeSans}). [13] Billy and Teddy began to battle the Wrecking Crew, warning them against disgracing this sacred space. [28], The first, or material men, will return to the grossness of matter and finally be consumed by fire; the second, or animal men, together with the Demiurge, will enter a middle state, neither Pleroma nor hyle; the purely spiritual men will be completely freed from the influence of the Demiurge and together with the Saviour and Achamoth, his spouse, will enter the Pleroma divested of body (hyle) and soul (psych). According to some strains of Gnosticism, the demiurge is malevolent, as it is linked to the material world. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/6Y934v-iG3NRpVANkwhqbJlExL9r9BuVDNqdz2XRNSEnmIMffLzVNOolz-NaFFXB9FKrzqUThvKZK_DX_eR5-74KBCLwCD8WVZWNPL3NGgba1NKocwdrWzk-kHtsYnxisKM_Zkg06Q=s1600. And as I said before get over the visual depiction we've seen Dice(Skrull Kill Krew) interact with them and he is not even as powerful as standard Wiccan. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll After defeating Mr. Hyde, Patriot admitted that he had not inherited his grandfather's Super Soldier abilities and promptly quit the Young Avengers. Plotinus criticizes his opponents for "all the novelties through which they seek to establish a philosophy of their own" which, he declares, "have been picked up outside of the truth";[50] they attempt to conceal rather than admit their indebtedness to ancient philosophy, which they have corrupted by their extraneous and misguided embellishments. Something being made from a gods breath is standard prose about creation. Sometime later, Billy is targeted by the Vridai, a race of shapeshifters expelled from their home during War of the Realms. William "Billy" Kaplan, also known as Wiccan, is a human mutant and magician. Outside, Magneto arrives, saying that he wants Billy help to locate his daughter. While patterning himself after Thor in the guise of Asgardian, Billy limited himself entirely to flight and lightning based spells. 09:51 Andrew Stets ft. Soncesvit - Gutsul. Defends against Lucy in the Sky, a strong energy projector, His shield protected him from a giant Skrull with the powers of Giant Man enough so he doesn't die, His most recent self can tank the likes of the Wrecker with his crowbar. Wiccan. The true Platonic other-worldliness, which love and venerates the material universe in all its goodness and beauty as the most perfect possible image of the intelligible, contracted at length with the false, Gnostic, other-worldliness which hates and despises the material universe and its beauties (chs. Wiccan and Hulkling are thrown into a prison outside their dimension, but are rescued by Loki. Soon after, Billy married his longtime boyfriend, Hulking, however, their new life is briefly interrupted when Hulking takes his rightful place as the king of a Kree and Skrull alliance. It was originally a common noun meaning "craftsman" or "artisan", but gradually came to mean "producer", and eventually "creator". This link to Judeo-Christian tradition leads to a further comparison with Satan. 257, 382). 'wisdom'), the Demiurge's mother and partial aspect of the divine Pleroma or "Fullness," desired to create something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent. The character has been depicted as a member of the Young Avengers, a team of teenage superheroes, as well as the Champions. [28], In creating this world out of Chaos the Demiurge was unconsciously influenced for good; and the universe, to the surprise even of its Maker, became almost perfect. The battle culminated with Iron Lad killing Kang which altered the past and present. Sylvie revealed to them that she was not actually from Asgard, but that she woke up one morning with powers. The Young Avengers managed to escape to Billy's household. [49] In the ninth tractate of the second of his Enneads, Plotinus criticizes his opponents for their appropriation of ideas from Plato: From Plato come their punishments, their rivers of the underworld and the changing from body to body; as for the plurality they assert in the Intellectual Realmthe Authentic Existent, the Intellectual-Principle, the Second Creator and the Soulall this is taken over from the Timaeus. A lot of comic books inspired WandaVision, including House Of M and the 1985 The Vision And The Scarlet Witch limited series (by writer Steve Englehart and artist Richard Howell.) Billy experiments with some names, adopting the name Demiurge, but later reverts back to Wiccan. Demiurge Wiccan has more impressive feats. The law of necessary procession and the eternity of the universe (ch.3). However, Master Pandemonium stated that their past was steeped in chaos and tragedy and convinced them that rather than search for who they were in the past, they should embrace who they are now. . The Runaways rebuked their offer, but joined together when Karolina Dean, the Skrull Xavin, Hulkling and Wiccan were captured by agents of a secret alien-observation base called The Cube. In Young Avengers vol. The false team, dubbed Young Avengers Lite by Billy, states their intention to continue to fight crime. The one also in Immortal Wonder Woman? The ending panel for issue 3 is, Chavez "sister" revealing more people like her and America created by replicating America's mom's experiments. Thus Sophia's power becomes enclosed within the material forms of humanity, themselves entrapped within the material universe: the goal of Gnostic movements was typically the awakening of this spark, which permitted a return by the subject to the superior, non-material realities which were its primal source. While Billy agrees to be tested, the Young Avengers help his to escape from Avengers Tower. Being raised in a normal home in New York with his loving mother, Rebecca Kaplan, father, Jeff Kaplan, and two brothers, Billy had the average problems for a gay teenager. Here he uses an offensive spell but he doesn't repeat the spell. William was believed to be Malachi, who attacked the Avengers during the Crossing story arc. One Gnostic mythos describes the declination of aspects of the divine into human form. Wiccan, Speed, and Hulkling team up with Xavin and the Runaways to defeat the Super-Skrulls that are sent to assassinate Hulkling. 13:29 CJ Mars - K.D.D. Demiurge, under Mor-I-Dun's control, attacked the Avengers and his husband, King Hulk . Also, considering the evidence from the time, Evangeliou thought the definition of the term "Gnostics" was unclear. Dice of the Skrull Kill Krew does the same and he is by all accounts not even particularly powerful. The Gnostics adopted the term demiurge. The writers confirmed Raven's level of power on Twitter when I asked them! The Ophites held that he and his demons constantly oppose and thwart the human race, as it was on their account the devil was cast down into this world. T. Plotinus also elucidates the equation of matter with nothing or non-being in The Enneads[9] which more correctly is to express the concept of idealism or that there is not anything or anywhere outside of the "mind" or nous (c.f. Something to note is that Wiccan didn't know where he was teleporting to, so the spell probably just teleported him to safety. The Latin translation, confirmed by Hippolytus of Rome,[24] makes Irenaeus state that according to Cerinthus (who shows Ebionite influence), creation was made by a power quite separate from the Supreme God and ignorant of him. The Demiurge regretted even its slight imperfection, and as he thought himself the Supreme God, he attempted to remedy this by sending a Messiah. He is a reality warper, according to Loki. Honestly Wiccan is mostly statements. [7] This is the God above the Demiurge, and manifests through the actions of the Demiurge. During her marriage to the Vision, the Scarlet Witch used her reality-altering powers to create twin boys Willaim and . ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. As "Asgardian" he limited his abilities to that of flight and lightning projection. The Super-Skrull revealed to Teddy that he was "Dorrek VIII" the rightful heir to the Skrull Empire. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. In the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy, the demiurge (/ d m i. r d /) is an artisan-like figure responsible for fashioning and maintaining the physical universe.The Gnostics adopted the term demiurge.Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily the same as the creator figure in the monotheistic sense, because the demiurge . Back at the Avengers Mansion, Billy was eager to begin Sylvie's training, but she seemed more interested in getting closer to Billy, whom she appeared to be attracted to, causing Billy a degree of discomfort. The Young Avengers agreed that in order for reality to stabilize, Iron Lad must return to his own time. Unhappy about this, Billy uses a location spell to find the team, and the real Young Avengers confront the false ones. @j2111: Yeah, I've seen all that before. 13). Billy Kaplan never had a problem being different than other people. After a brief engagement, the Dark Avengers and the Masters were all but defeated. Character During this time, the Super-Skrull stated his belief that Billy and Tommy's similarities in appearance and powers indicated that they were the twin sons of the Scarlet Witch and the Vision. Nebro creates six angels in addition to the angel Saklas to be his assistants. The "One" is further separated into spheres of intelligence; the first and superior sphere is objects of thought, while the latter sphere is the domain of thought. Theyre was never a recton that changed how the utopian parallel was created cause according to these recent America comics which still say and show that the demiurge I.e William Kaplan (Wiccan). Soncesvit - Bulawa (Aerofoil Remix) 25:59 The Faino - Arkan Christos Evangeliou has contended[52] that Plotinus' opponents might be better described as simply "Christian Gnostics", arguing that several of Plotinus' criticisms are as applicable to orthodox Christian doctrine as well. Wiccan is a playable character in the MMO game, Wiccan appears as a playable character in. All those statements are never verified when they were not outright contradicted or retconned. All matches made by Wiccan will clear their row or column, dealing damage and generating AP. Billy gave up his superhero career, being mostly grounded by his parents who urged him to register. When Loki teleports away, seemingly abandoning the team, Wiccan sees no choice but to kill himself in order to end his spell, but is saved by Loki's return. The devil resides in this lower world, of which he is the prince, the Demiurge in the heavens; his mother Sophia in the middle region, above the heavens and below the Pleroma.[45]. With a thought, he puts a group of bad guys in a coma. Recognizing the Runaways under attack by registration agents on a monitoring screen, the Young Avengers set out to assist them and convince them to join the anti-registration side. With a thought, he puts a group of bad guys in a coma. THE STORY ISNT FINISHED as I keep saying. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 2, it is revealed by Loki that Wiccan is destined to ascend to a god-like reality warper who will rewrite the rules of magic known as the Demiurge. Timaeus describes the Demiurge as unreservedly benevolent, and so it desires a world as good as possible. Billy and Teddy had been helping out when they came across an Asgardian temple being desecrated and pillaged by the Wrecking Crew. Are they confirmed it or hinted about it? It's literally all from the same run. Gnosticism presents a distinction between the highest, unknowable God or Supreme Being and the demiurgic "creator" of the material, commonly identified as Yahweh, the God of the Hebrew Bible. Demiurge Prime Marvel Universe (Earth-616) Others Others Billy Kaplan Moridun Year 20XX destroyed by Moridun (Earth-16364) Categories Categories: Disambiguation Pages Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted. That was in America (2017) which is what youre referring to. At first, it was presumed that Billy was just an electrokinetic mutant with strong sorcery abilities. Thomas ended up as the son of the Shepard family while William ended up as the son of the Kaplan's family. Teleports his teammates who were spread out at the time mid-fight, so he has good accuracy when it comes to teleporting. Cookie Notice Another alternative title for the demiurge is "Saklas", Aramaic for "fool". Armstrong alluding to Gnosticism being a Hellenic philosophical heresy of sorts, which later engaged Christianity and Neoplatonism.[53][54]. 07:49AM It appears that Plotinus attempted to clarify how the philosophers of the academy had not arrived at the same conclusions (such as dystheism or misotheism for the creator God as an answer to the problem of evil) as the targets of his criticism. Wiccan and the others were eventually rescued by their teammates and continued avoiding registration. By stating an intent and focusing on the outcome. Billy met Iron Lad at the Avengers Mansion while seeking Scarlet Witch. The user is able to perform/cast a rare variety of magic spells and feats that manipulates reality itself to various degrees. Youre trying to use something that yet to be finished or explained. The second principle is organization in its reflection of the nonsentient force or dynamis, also called the one or the Monad. Billy's issues escalated as he grew older and entered high school where his differences became the source of endless torment and violence. Billy used his magical abilities to send Sentry away, taking Osborn's most valuable team member off the board. He seems to be steadily losing ground, until Teddy appears to him. "For, in sum, a part of their doctrine comes from Plato; all the novelties through which they seek to establish a philosophy of their own have been picked up outside of the truth." Attack on the Gnostic doctrine of the making of the universe by a fallen soul, and on their despising of the universe and the heavenly bodies (chs. Criticism of the attempts to multiply the hypostasis, and especially of the idea of two intellects, one which thinks and that other which thinks that it thinks. But the devil, as being a spirit of wickedness, is able to recognise the higher spiritual world, of which his maker the Demiurge, who is only animal, has no real knowledge. Level 3: While Wiccan has the Power of the Demiurge, all of his matches will destroy their row or column. The etymology of the name Yaldabaoth has been subject to many speculative theories. Knocks out multiple people simultaneously, Manipulates water to to knock away a Skrull. The earliest Gnostic sects ascribe the work of creation to angels, some of them using the same passage in Genesis. Stature later defected to the pro-registration side, stating that she did not want to go to prison like Wiccan had. on 01/09/22 However, the Super-Skrull tracked them down, revealing Hulkling's mother to be a Skrull (who was charged to raise him on Earth by Hulkling's birth mother, the deceased Skrull Empress Anelle). 9). He briefly achieves this form, and is able to view the past, present and future, as well as freely alter the universe. The team agrees to look for Speed and they use Miss America's interdimensional powers to find him. The members are Quentin Quire, Patriot, Lightspeed, Speedball and Sophie, Mindee and Esme Cuckoo. He did not do it and he will not do it, because then marvel would have to come up with actual laws for their magic and how does that apply to combat in the first place? 2, it is revealed by Loki that Wiccan is destined to ascend to a god-like reality warper who will rewrite the rules of magic known as the Demiurge. After a possessed Scarlet Witch and Doctor Doom cast the Inversion spell again, the "evil" heroes reverted to their heroic selves, and the trapped Avengers were freed. 2. Depending on the system, they may be considered either uncreated and eternal or the product of some other entity.