Anyone flying under VFR (Visual . That being said, its not just a comfort level thing or willingness issue - its often a safety judgement. The Cessna P210N stall speed is 67 knots. The guy should be grounded for a nice long while. Last thing I want flying over a populated area is some guy who thinks he owns the airspace, and willing to butt heads over it. About 45 minutes after the student left my phone rings Caller - this is xx. Then he flew back to Torrance the next day. P.S. The first is to signal that the pilot is done speaking especially. (https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N731NR). Got it in there but lake was too short for lake off. Keith - THANK YOU for all that you did to ensure the safety of your passengers and your crew! The compilation is based on data from the agency's Enforcement Information System ( EIS ). I dont know what will fix that. I'd always much rather be proactive and prevent a pilot deviation. Wnt to the FBO called the ATC sup from the day before had him and the controller involved from the previous flight, made student apologize for his behavior requested they critique student radio skill (he always had a cigar stub in his mouth, refused to remove it). (i.e. He risked lives at the time of this incident, and in the future if pilots aren't seriously punished for this kind of behavior. I'd like to know more about the outcome. The pilot of N731NR is a jerk, as well as an unsafe pilot that should not be flying. On Reddit they doxed him. Unless there is an emergency, no person should operate an aircraft contrary to an ATC instruction. Don't argue with these pros. Everybody said most of everything I would want to say. If the worst were to happen, people could lose their lives due to pilot deviation, which is not something that anyone wants to have on their conscience. Its ridiculous that youre allowed to take the control of a Cessna independently at 60-80 hours of learning. Harrison Ford is an accomplished pilot that made the same sort of mistake that many Commercial ATP pilots have made setting up for the wrong runway or taxiway etc. The Registry will be issuing revised certificates in batches based on the former expiration date. Good on you for being anti-US and pro-mask and anti-Vegas, but not in a discussion that has nothing to do with that, smart-guy. How hard would it be to just clear him through? Maybe, just maybe this controller was playing her Bravo authority a little too far? Yes humans make mistakes, and that is why aviation has the strictest protocols outside Oh my gosh! How much you want to bet this pilot is one of the people who refuse to wear a mask? And the incidents you mention are the exact reason for the existence of Bravo and Charlie airspace in the first place. Its about attitude, and my only (very generous) defense of this pilots terrible attitude is that all of us are more tense and reactive these days with the covid pandemic, elections, riots, BLM, and other socio-political upheavals were dealing with globally. Don't get what you want, "burn down the system.". Attached is the letter in response to your above mentioned FOIA request. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I was the 16yo kid working the desk when his #2 instructor sent a private student off on his long cross country and controlled airspace solo flight he went to lunch. N731NR: "Vegas Approach, Centurion 731NR with you descending through 5700'"LAS: "1NR, Las Vegas Approach, Las Vegas altimeter, 29.88. It should be a few hundred. She is going to give him the number when he's ready. The requested documents will be made available to the general public, and this request is not being made for commercial purposes. LOL this is probably the same guy that registered the aircraft to WIFE APPROVED LLC. He shouldnt be flying anywhere near Class B airspace if he doesnt understand the regulations. from 7110.65 Reply IctrlPlanes Additional comment actions It was after the check ride was over that it was actually issued. - file an IFR (instrument flight rules) flight plan that gives you the same priority as airline traffic. Although VASAviation transcribed it as "you're being that," it sounded to me more like this pilot started to retort with, "YOU'RE being an ass--", then caught himself and said, "That is not appropriate language.". N1NR greeted LAS with standard communication and LAS responded with standard information that N1NR would need for their arrival at Henderson airport. Me - yes sir, IP just sent student name on his long cross country and controlled airspace flight. incorporated its pilot deviation notification procedures into the Facility Operation and Administration publication in 1986. Pierce, April 6, 1859. ATC should have called the Airforce on him. Most aircraft are owned by a business, a corporation, a leasing company, or someone who rents their aircraft out. They have your lives in their hands. To do this, they will use the Brasher Notification Phraseology. Pull that @$$holes license and give him a huge fine. This is a willful/intentional violation of FAR and ATC instructions. 731NR | Pilots of America Home Forums Controlled Airspace Flight Following 731NR Discussion in ' Flight Following ' started by WWFeldman, Oct 29, 2020 . In fact, I encourage that. For purposes of these compilations, a regulated aviation entity holds a certificate issued by the FAA, (e.g., air carrier operating certificate, repair station certificate, pilot school certificate, airport operating certificate) or is a foreign air carrier or other aviation entity regulated under Part 129 of the Federal Aviation Regulations, 14 CFR Part 129. The belligerent behavior of the pilot with the controller and the sound of his voice makes me wonder if this might have been suffering from mild hypoxia. Get Alerts. Yes humans make mistakes, and that is why aviation has the strictest protocols outside the nuclear industry. Single and Multi engine with Instrument privileges. N1NR answers back that "he's flying". I too am amazed at the next tower's apology. Get the stick out of your asses. There are riots. For this pilot (tail number N731NR abbreviated to N1NR), it wasn't a mistake as noted by the following exchange: LAS Approach: "N1NR, I need you outside of the Bravo"N731NR: "Negative"LAS: "Negative what? Official websites use .govA .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States. At this point another pilot chimes in and says youre an [emailprotected]@hole, and the pilot responds youre being that, this is not appropriate language. The video then goes back to the previous communication, which makes it clear that the pilot had never received clearance. I, at times, if the weather is good enough, cancelled IFR..continuing on my own. Caller - this is xx. Federal Aviation Administration Watch how 731NR Decides to fly right into class bravo and not even care about it. Secure .gov websites use HTTPS Now, I hate to defend this guy because what he did was insane but i'm not so quick to pull his ticket simply because I wouldn't want my Now, I hate to defend this guy because what he did was insane but i'm not so quick to pull his ticket simply because I wouldn't want my ticket pulled if I messed up - though I wouldn't like that. The Cessna P210N stall speed is 67 knots. The guy should be investigated and suspended until taught both manners and flying law. Undiagnosed tumors and the like can lead to emotional regulation problems and impaired judgement. He endangered so many people. Bravo airspace, like Ben said, is the airspace around major airports in the country. Please provide a copy of all records previously provided under FOIA request: 2020-007074WS . I hope he stops making bad decisions before he no longer has the ability to do so. I once ate spices in the Old City. Maybe "Karen" is the fictitious name the ignorant/uncaring pilot in this story gave himself!? Flying his bird may get a lot less pleasant REAL fast. She refuses and he petulantly retorts back. I hope that this finds you well and safe, We apologize for the delay in response. Student - he did get his private after 3 more months of practice. Part of the perfected status is a complete name, and address from each requestor. As a pilot, pilot deviation is something that you should avoid at all costs when possible, but what does it mean? The wheels of justice grind slowly but they do grind - Ken White (a lawyer and a good one). We have your student at the local FBO, and one of my people has the keys. (Identification) POSSIBLE PILOT DEVIATION ADVISE YOU CONTACT (facility) AT (telephone number). Hard to believe there is somebody out there kind-of defending him! Pull that @$$holes license and give him a huge fine. Unfortunately, that's not what happened. Looks like he was below 6000 the whole time. I received a disc from the FAA containing the Air Traffic Organization response and I loaded everything from that disc into this Google Drive folder. Looks like we found the co-owner of Wife Approved, LLC. N731NR (angrily): "I'm not ready to copy. However he failed to descend below the inner ring, that ring starts at 4500 ft MSL and goes up to 10000 ft MSL. That's the whole point of talking to you.". My local airport is RDU. Learn more. He could have declared, he could have said he has a medical emergency, heck he could have said all sorts of things. Only then did he comply with instructions. These guys & women keep 10-20 balls in the air constantly..you think you can do better?? What are the Advantages of Using VOR Systems for Navigation? Can A Private Pilot Fly As A Sport Pilot. This request is not currently in perfected status. Is there any way you can vector me through? E I thought I was cleared, I have an ill 6 year old on board. She points out that he was not cleared to be there and repeats her order. LAS may not have even heard the static. Must have been a Kennedy. The pilot never requested clearance into the class BRAVO airspace. he just kept right on going disregarding the safety of hundreds of people on the SWA planes. Student name just called ATC, skipped approach control called the tower directly when he was on a short final for FSD advised his name and I'm coming in. All I do is shake my head and smile. Publicado el junio 1, 2022 por junio 1, 2022 por An official website of the United States government Here's how you know. 1NR, exit the Bravo immediately.Pilot: Ive been talking to you the whole time. All I do is shake my head and smile. This guy is a class-one "all about me" narcissist who makes GA pilots look bad. It would be one thing if he "unintentionally" violated the Class B airspace (how exactly do you do that in this day and age?). This guy intentionally violated it, then took up ATC's time fighting about it. In this case, N1NR is not landing at Las Vegas but at a different airport and is just passing through the area. I was working the ER In Jerusalem and this belligerent teen was being kept there for observation post head trauma. [His lack of permission and knowledge about needing such was discussed by previous posters and is referenced here just for completeness.]. - claiming he got auth when he didn't * See for example https://youtu.be/mUSUXnr4dSo, Subject: HQ: Request 2020-007191 under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. > Nobody gives a f*. She then states (in so many words) that she didn't clear him and she's the only one that can clear him. Every pilot has equal access to the airspace system and have The tower controller likely doesn't care, as he won't be handling it. Just like the American pilots did when they couldn't get runway 31 at JFK. It causes paperwork (at the very least) on both sides and is also distracting from other important duties. Even if you dont have a good understanding of ATC terminology, the situation should be easy enough to make sense of. You should be ashamed. It appears that this pilot is a child of the "Magenta Line", it looks like he flies with automation on a lot. Share sensitive information only on official, secure websites. He had to pass my father's exam before IP could sign off on him. I've gotta jump on the bandwagon in wondering "just what the heck 'Karen' was thinking" when she told the 99.9999999% of commentors on this site to get the "sticks out of their asses". Mistakes happen. We cannot possibly explain reasoning behind every denial of service at the time it happens. First, when aviation is involved we ALL give a f. People's lives are at risk. Indeed: N731NR - Aircraft Registration Information D DankVectorz Legendary Member FAA Messages 1,895 Facility N90 New York Tracon Jun 25, 2020 #6 Phillyman2633 said: What the cuck? This will help to ensure that you are fully prepared for whatever happens next. 2020-007191WS Anonymous (Laing) Invoice.pdf, 2020-007191WS Anonymous (Laing) PDPNR.pdf, Subject: RE: Freedom of Information Act Request #2020-007191. Other pilots chimed in calling him for what he was. And stop hating on those people in supermarkets and parks. "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not forthemselves, and under a just God, cannot long retain it. The report said the pilot was distracted adjusting the climate control on approach. Karen Mosley apparetly is clueless about aviation. Eg. He did request a clearance. In the next couple of weeks this is what he can expect: 1 Phone call with FAA to get pilots side of the story. We will also go into the consequences that could occur if you were to get into trouble for this. You don't get to tar the rest of us with his brush. Shesa credit to the profession. "N731NR (again, whining): "I requested Bravo clearance about 15 miles ago.